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	<title>Comments on: Patrick Holford’s mentors and inspirations – but who are they exactly?</title>
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		<title>By: LeeT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier this evening I went to one of Patrick Holford&#039;s seminars.

After it ended I rushed up to the front of the hall to take my place in the queue with his admirers to ask some questions.

I asked him what he was up to between graduating in 1979 and setting up the ION in 1984. He told me that Abram Hoffer had come over to lecture in Britain before the ION was set up. As we know in the early 80&#039;s he began seeing patients. He said to me the ION was established because he had a three month waiting list in 1983.  People were keen to learn what he knew hence the need for a training establishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this evening I went to one of Patrick Holford&#8217;s seminars.</p>
<p>After it ended I rushed up to the front of the hall to take my place in the queue with his admirers to ask some questions.</p>
<p>I asked him what he was up to between graduating in 1979 and setting up the ION in 1984. He told me that Abram Hoffer had come over to lecture in Britain before the ION was set up. As we know in the early 80&#8217;s he began seeing patients. He said to me the ION was established because he had a three month waiting list in 1983.  People were keen to learn what he knew hence the need for a training establishment.</p>
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		<title>By: A year of Virtual Spleen &#171; Dr Aust&#8217;s Spleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>A year of Virtual Spleen &#171; Dr Aust&#8217;s Spleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a year and ten days, actually. The blog opened for business on Sept 22nd last year with Patrick Holford’s mentors and inspirations – but who are they exactly? and the obligatory “About me” entry Hello World – Dr Aust goes live. At the time I was quite [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a year and ten days, actually. The blog opened for business on Sept 22nd last year with Patrick Holford’s mentors and inspirations – but who are they exactly? and the obligatory “About me” entry Hello World – Dr Aust goes live. At the time I was quite [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Holford on Statins and Why You Should Spend Money on His Supplements As Well or Instead &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Holford on Statins and Why You Should Spend Money on His Supplements As Well or Instead &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 12:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the use of statins, yet advocate the supplementation of niacin to modify cholesterol levels (Dr Aust provides a good account of Holford&#8217;s mentor Abram Hoffer who is responsible for much of the early work on niacin). If you haven&#8217;t taken that part of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the use of statins, yet advocate the supplementation of niacin to modify cholesterol levels (Dr Aust provides a good account of Holford&#8217;s mentor Abram Hoffer who is responsible for much of the early work on niacin). If you haven&#8217;t taken that part of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jdc325</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdc325</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think these testimonials prove to us that Patrick Holford really does believe that the plural of anecdote is data&quot;.
Ha - anecdata. I have a feeling that one or two people might have their own anecdote(s) about Patrick Holford&#039;s advice that might not be quite as complimentary as the testimonials on his site. I know I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think these testimonials prove to us that Patrick Holford really does believe that the plural of anecdote is data&#8221;.<br />
Ha &#8211; anecdata. I have a feeling that one or two people might have their own anecdote(s) about Patrick Holford&#8217;s advice that might not be quite as complimentary as the testimonials on his site. I know I do.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these testimonials prove to us that Patrick Holford really does believe that the plural of anecdote is data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these testimonials prove to us that Patrick Holford really does believe that the plural of anecdote is data.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Aust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Aust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am personally pretty much convinced PH must have been in business as a private &quot;nutritional therapist&quot; in the years after 1980 and before / while setting up the ION in 1984. After all, when he started the ION in 1984 he was presumably passing on the &quot;experience&quot; gained in his time visiting Hoffer and Pfeiffer and from his own &quot;practise&quot;.  

I suppose clues are probably in PH&#039;s earlier books, if one could get hold of them and read them without losing the will to live.

Talking of his correspondent &quot;Betty&quot;, I rather suspect she would have had traditional breast cancer treatment, so probably surgery plus maybe other things. Like many another patient she probably then attributes to the &quot;marvellous diet advised by this &lt;i&gt;brilliant&lt;/i&gt; nutritionist&quot;  the recovery caused by (i) the treatment arresting the disease; and (ii) stopping chemo or radiation on completion of therapy. Even with just surgery you would doubtless feel pretty rotten afterwards.

John Diamond wrote in &lt;i&gt;Snake Oil&lt;/i&gt; about how people he talked to about cancer commonly made this same misattribution. An obvious inference would be that they often do this because &lt;i&gt;successful&lt;/i&gt; real cancer therapies (which are based on killing cells, after all) almost always make people feel lousy before they feel better.

Having read the testimonials, the most depressing to me was the one from &quot;Janette M&quot; mentioning that she had her mercury amalgam fillings yanked out.

*sigh*

Of course, it is perfectly possible that some of these people, and others who have bought PH&#039;s books,  are now eating a healthier diet because they have followed the more mainstream / less daft bits of advice like - wait for it - eat more fresh fruit and veg, and more complex carbohydrates, less red meat and more lean protein. 

The two problems are that:

(i) they also get a whole load of idiocy, Un-science and bamboozlement about supplements, antioxidants, homocysteine etc etc

(ii) they are quite likely to have gotten the same basic diet advice from the GP but to have ignored it because it wasn&#039;t dressed up in the cloak of bogus authority and ringed with hocus-pocus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am personally pretty much convinced PH must have been in business as a private &#8220;nutritional therapist&#8221; in the years after 1980 and before / while setting up the ION in 1984. After all, when he started the ION in 1984 he was presumably passing on the &#8220;experience&#8221; gained in his time visiting Hoffer and Pfeiffer and from his own &#8220;practise&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I suppose clues are probably in PH&#8217;s earlier books, if one could get hold of them and read them without losing the will to live.</p>
<p>Talking of his correspondent &#8220;Betty&#8221;, I rather suspect she would have had traditional breast cancer treatment, so probably surgery plus maybe other things. Like many another patient she probably then attributes to the &#8220;marvellous diet advised by this <i>brilliant</i> nutritionist&#8221;  the recovery caused by (i) the treatment arresting the disease; and (ii) stopping chemo or radiation on completion of therapy. Even with just surgery you would doubtless feel pretty rotten afterwards.</p>
<p>John Diamond wrote in <i>Snake Oil</i> about how people he talked to about cancer commonly made this same misattribution. An obvious inference would be that they often do this because <i>successful</i> real cancer therapies (which are based on killing cells, after all) almost always make people feel lousy before they feel better.</p>
<p>Having read the testimonials, the most depressing to me was the one from &#8220;Janette M&#8221; mentioning that she had her mercury amalgam fillings yanked out.</p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>Of course, it is perfectly possible that some of these people, and others who have bought PH&#8217;s books,  are now eating a healthier diet because they have followed the more mainstream / less daft bits of advice like &#8211; wait for it &#8211; eat more fresh fruit and veg, and more complex carbohydrates, less red meat and more lean protein. </p>
<p>The two problems are that:</p>
<p>(i) they also get a whole load of idiocy, Un-science and bamboozlement about supplements, antioxidants, homocysteine etc etc</p>
<p>(ii) they are quite likely to have gotten the same basic diet advice from the GP but to have ignored it because it wasn&#8217;t dressed up in the cloak of bogus authority and ringed with hocus-pocus.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found an interesting section on Mr Holford&#039;s website which list testimonies from his admirers

http://www.patrickholford.com/content.asp?id_Content=1364

My favourite is the one from Betty L - an interesting bit of information about what he was up to in the 1980s. Not sure if Betty is telling us that he cured her breast cancer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found an interesting section on Mr Holford&#8217;s website which list testimonies from his admirers</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patrickholford.com/content.asp?id_Content=1364" rel="nofollow">http://www.patrickholford.com/content.asp?id_Content=1364</a></p>
<p>My favourite is the one from Betty L &#8211; an interesting bit of information about what he was up to in the 1980s. Not sure if Betty is telling us that he cured her breast cancer</p>
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		<title>By: Ephistopheles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephistopheles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why &quot;tedious&quot;? Because the talk is not about you? It is envy, Dr.! ;)

Unfortunately, you are right. I am not interested in your soul longer, Dr. Aust!
Now I am interested in childish pure naive soul of old Professor.
And only one thing confuses me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why &#8220;tedious&#8221;? Because the talk is not about you? It is envy, Dr.! ;)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you are right. I am not interested in your soul longer, Dr. Aust!<br />
Now I am interested in childish pure naive soul of old Professor.<br />
And only one thing confuses me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: draust</title>
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		<dc:creator>draust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ephistopheles (and your assorted other aliases):

Please take this tedious obsession with David Colquhoun somewhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ephistopheles (and your assorted other aliases):</p>
<p>Please take this tedious obsession with David Colquhoun somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephistopheles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephistopheles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly.
Dr. Aust, it seems you waited for me  ;)
Have you questions to me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly.<br />
Dr. Aust, it seems you waited for me  ;)<br />
Have you questions to me?</p>
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