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		<title>Comment on A moment&#8217;s pause by draust</title>
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		<dc:creator>draust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect Neuroskeptic was being ironic, Nash. 

Svetlana&#039;s last two links are to, respectively, Russian Wiki and English Wiki entries on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Soviet invasion of Eastern Poland in 1939&lt;/a&gt; that Nash is referring to. Since I don&#039;t read Russian I can&#039;t tell if these two pages give differing accounts of the events, though I wouldn&#039;t be surprised.

As I pointed out above, countries teach their own history, and sometimes that means their own version of history. The basic facts are that under the secret protocols of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov-Ribbentrop_pact&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact&lt;/a&gt;, Hitler and Stalin had secretly carved up Poland, as well as deciding who was going to rule what bits of Eastern Europe. A week after the pact was signed, Germany invaded Western Poland, and then a couple of weeks after that the Red Army moved in and annexed the Eastern bits.

I imagine this was taught in Soviet schools as an heroic act of liberation - this was certainly what the Soviet Politburo insisted on calling it - and perhaps it is still taught that way in Russia. Certainly some parts of the population in then eastern Poland, like the large ethnic Ukranian and Belarusian minorities, initially welcomed the Soviet army, as you can read on the English Wiki page.

Obviously there is more to say, but the Wiki pages offer a good introduction, and I am extremely bored with arguing with Svetlana. I only post up her (less personally offensive) comments out of a general distaste for censorship, even of ravings.

[&lt;strong&gt;Edit:&lt;/strong&gt; comment penned before reading Svetlana&#039;s latest rant of 8.46 pm, which was stuck in a seemingly unusually discerning spam filter]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect Neuroskeptic was being ironic, Nash. </p>
<p>Svetlana&#8217;s last two links are to, respectively, Russian Wiki and English Wiki entries on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland" rel="nofollow">Soviet invasion of Eastern Poland in 1939</a> that Nash is referring to. Since I don&#8217;t read Russian I can&#8217;t tell if these two pages give differing accounts of the events, though I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised.</p>
<p>As I pointed out above, countries teach their own history, and sometimes that means their own version of history. The basic facts are that under the secret protocols of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov-Ribbentrop_pact" rel="nofollow">Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact</a>, Hitler and Stalin had secretly carved up Poland, as well as deciding who was going to rule what bits of Eastern Europe. A week after the pact was signed, Germany invaded Western Poland, and then a couple of weeks after that the Red Army moved in and annexed the Eastern bits.</p>
<p>I imagine this was taught in Soviet schools as an heroic act of liberation &#8211; this was certainly what the Soviet Politburo insisted on calling it &#8211; and perhaps it is still taught that way in Russia. Certainly some parts of the population in then eastern Poland, like the large ethnic Ukranian and Belarusian minorities, initially welcomed the Soviet army, as you can read on the English Wiki page.</p>
<p>Obviously there is more to say, but the Wiki pages offer a good introduction, and I am extremely bored with arguing with Svetlana. I only post up her (less personally offensive) comments out of a general distaste for censorship, even of ravings.</p>
<p>[<strong>Edit:</strong> comment penned before reading Svetlana's latest rant of 8.46 pm, which was stuck in a seemingly unusually discerning spam filter]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A moment&#8217;s pause by Svetlana Pertsovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svetlana Pertsovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha. I said just about you and the same, that you have no brains to read a truth. There are two links above. But you have read only one of them, because you are too stupid to read the second link.
I put English link intentionally to show that you are low dirty liars and to demonstrate what sort of &quot;allies&quot; you were (and are) for us. We rescued you from fascism, but you, instead of gratitude, throw mud and lie at us. Are you &quot;humanists&quot; after this?
You are inhuman foul creatures.

Basta. Our retirement has finished. Now we shall throw out you from all quarters of the earth.No, we shall not fight against you! You will kill yourselves by your own hands. Do you want to come to make a war in Afghanistan? Aren&#039;t you fed up with sh*t in Iraq? Do you want else? Welcome! We let you. We let you even come there through our territory.  And then we shall watch how you, brainless idiots, kill there your own children. Fuc..d &quot;partiots&quot;! I wonder how is it possible to be British patriots, making war tens thousands miles off your own UK - in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc? What &quot;geopolitical interest&quot; can you seek there, eh? 
But if you so want - come and die. Come on! Flag to your hands, bayonet to your a..se.
Flag vam v ruki, schtyk vam v zhopu... (Rus.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha. I said just about you and the same, that you have no brains to read a truth. There are two links above. But you have read only one of them, because you are too stupid to read the second link.<br />
I put English link intentionally to show that you are low dirty liars and to demonstrate what sort of &#8220;allies&#8221; you were (and are) for us. We rescued you from fascism, but you, instead of gratitude, throw mud and lie at us. Are you &#8220;humanists&#8221; after this?<br />
You are inhuman foul creatures.</p>
<p>Basta. Our retirement has finished. Now we shall throw out you from all quarters of the earth.No, we shall not fight against you! You will kill yourselves by your own hands. Do you want to come to make a war in Afghanistan? Aren&#8217;t you fed up with sh*t in Iraq? Do you want else? Welcome! We let you. We let you even come there through our territory.  And then we shall watch how you, brainless idiots, kill there your own children. Fuc..d &#8220;partiots&#8221;! I wonder how is it possible to be British patriots, making war tens thousands miles off your own UK &#8211; in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc? What &#8220;geopolitical interest&#8221; can you seek there, eh?<br />
But if you so want &#8211; come and die. Come on! Flag to your hands, bayonet to your a..se.<br />
Flag vam v ruki, schtyk vam v zhopu&#8230; (Rus.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stop Press &#8211; Simon Singh granted leave to appeal by Simon Singh has won permission for a FULL APPEAL &#171; Science, Reason And Critical Thinking &#171; Blog Posts &#171; InfoFeeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Singh has won permission for a FULL APPEAL &#171; Science, Reason And Critical Thinking &#171; Blog Posts &#171; InfoFeeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on A moment&#8217;s pause by Nash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nash</dc:creator>
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		<description>Neuroskeptic

The Russians did open a second front of sorts in 1939. They invaded Poland a week or so after Germany and the country was divided between the two as per the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neuroskeptic</p>
<p>The Russians did open a second front of sorts in 1939. They invaded Poland a week or so after Germany and the country was divided between the two as per the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A moment&#8217;s pause by Svetlana Pertsovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svetlana Pertsovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, it is partly good that you are so agressive and false.
It means that you will lose soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, it is partly good that you are so agressive and false.<br />
It means that you will lose soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A moment&#8217;s pause by Svetlana Pertsovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svetlana Pertsovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you distinguish a lie from a truth in those two links? No?
It is no wonder. I knew always that you have no brains for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you distinguish a lie from a truth in those two links? No?<br />
It is no wonder. I knew always that you have no brains for this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A moment&#8217;s pause by Svetlana Pertsovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svetlana Pertsovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Польский_поход_РККА_(1939)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Польский_поход_РККА_(1939)" rel="nofollow">http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Польский_поход_РККА_(1939)</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on A moment&#8217;s pause by Neuroskeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neuroskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ah! You are our “saviours”, as it turns out! The I have a question to you, “saviour”. Why didn’t your foul government open Second Front in 1941 when fascists stood under Moscow?&lt;/b&gt;

if we&#039;re playing the WW2 shame game why didn&#039;t you open up a second front when they invaded Poland, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ah! You are our “saviours”, as it turns out! The I have a question to you, “saviour”. Why didn’t your foul government open Second Front in 1941 when fascists stood under Moscow?</b></p>
<p>if we&#8217;re playing the WW2 shame game why didn&#8217;t you open up a second front when they invaded Poland, eh?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kneed in the Nutts &#8211; or shot in the foot? by Neuroskeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neuroskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Prof. Nutt is going to make good on his &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;threat to set up an independent not-the-ACMD?&lt;/a&gt; That could be really interesting. It&#039;s also the kind of thing David Nutt would actually go ahead and do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Prof. Nutt is going to make good on his <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8342454.stm" rel="nofollow">threat to set up an independent not-the-ACMD?</a> That could be really interesting. It&#8217;s also the kind of thing David Nutt would actually go ahead and do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on A moment&#8217;s pause by draust</title>
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		<dc:creator>draust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking of tanks, especially Soviet ones, there is an interesting little post on Paul Wilson&#039;s Hawk/Handsaw blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://hawk-handsaw.blogspot.com/2009/08/soviet-manchester.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt; Shows you how busy military stategists (of all ideological stripes) always are with their &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_operation_plan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;contingency plans.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking of tanks, especially Soviet ones, there is an interesting little post on Paul Wilson&#8217;s Hawk/Handsaw blog <a href="http://hawk-handsaw.blogspot.com/2009/08/soviet-manchester.html" rel="nofollow">here.</a> Shows you how busy military stategists (of all ideological stripes) always are with their <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_operation_plan" rel="nofollow">contingency plans.</a></p>
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